The reality about Islam: March 2010

Sunday, March 28, 2010

Early Christians rejected Trinity

Taken From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

Early Christians rejected Trinity. They also had major problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or not he got crucified or not:

The sections of this article are:

1- Early Christians rejected Trinity.

2- Questions to Trinitarian Christians.

3- Early Christians, especially during the 2nd century, had major disagreements and problems with each others about the identity of Jesus and whether or not he got crucified.

4- The quotes of Peter's Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims.

1- Early Christians rejected Trinity:

The following was sent to me by brother Fikirman; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

We, Muslims are not the only ones who believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) is mortal and not a god so that means we deny the trinity.

The Jews also reject the trinity, in addition to the very first groups of Christianity such as the Ebionites, the Corinthians, the Basilidians, the Capocratians, and the Hypisistarians never know about trinity doctrine at all. The Arians, Paulicians and Goths also accepted Jesus (peace be upon him) as a prophet of God and against the trinity.

Even in the modern age there are churches in Asia, in Africa, the Unitarian church, the Jehovah's witnesses, and even the majority of today's Anglican Bishops do not worship Jesus (peace be upon him) as one in three, as what been report by the "Daily News" 25/6/84 under the heading "Shock survey of Anglican Bishops."

Moreover, the 'Socinianism', the 17th-century Christian also rejects such traditional doctrines as the Trinity and original sin, the founder is Socinus, and his Latinized name of Lelio Francesco Maria Sozzini (1525-1562), the Italian Protestant theologian.

Johannes Greber (1874) a former of Catholic priest in his book 'The Communication with the Spirit World of God' in page 371 was written, "As you see, the doctrine of a triune Godhead is not only contrary to common sense, but is entirely unsupported by the Scriptures". So another priest who was deny the trinity.

A theologians, Edouard Schillebeeckx of the Netherlands in 1979 was writings some article that rejects the doctrine of the Trinity. This caused concern to the Vatican.

2- Question to Trinitarian Christians:

Why, for thousands of years, did none of God's prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the least, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the "central doctrine" of faith?

3- Early Christians, especially during the 2nd century, had major disagreements and problems with each others about the identity of Jesus and whether or not he got crucified:

Introductory Note:

Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible! According to the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", which I watched on the History Channel, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that only few people in the world know about.

According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation".

The following three posts from my message board contain the proofs and references about early apocalypses and epistles conflicting with trinity, Jesus' identity about being GOD, and the crucifixion story. During the 2nd century, it was widely believed among many Christians that Jesus never got crucified. This belief perfectly agrees with Islam.

4- The quotes of Peter's Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims:

The following quotes, proofs and references of the quotes were posted by brother Haytham on my message board, may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him. I have colored and bolded important points below to make easier to read.

Fromhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/message_board_islam/read_post.cgi?file_name=162/7.txt

From: Haytham

Subject: I GOT IT QUOTED HERE

Date: 4/11/2004

The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."

But he said to me, "I have told you, "Leave the blind alone!". And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."

And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. And he was filled with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them,and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed.

And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel, in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully looking those who did him violence,while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute.But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light.He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Palermo , which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit."

Read on :

"But many others, who oppose the truth and are the messengers of error, will set up their error and their law against these pure thoughts of mine, as looking out from one perspective, thinking that good and evil are from one source. They do business in my word. And they will propagate harsh fate. The race of immortal souls will go in it in vain, until my Parousia. For they shall come out of them, and my forgiveness of their transgressions into which they fell through the adversaries, whose ransom I got from the slavery in which they were, to give them freedom that they may create an imitation remnant in the name of a dead man, who is Hermas, of the first-born of unrighteousness, in order that the light which exists may not believed by the little ones. But those of this sort are the worker who will be cast into the outer darkness, away from the sons of light. For neither will they enter, nor do they permit those who are going up to their approval for their release."

Taken from : http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/apoc/fgapcpt.htm

Note from me, Osama Abdallah: The article has moved to: http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/apoc/fgapcpt.htm

It is noteworthy that many other gospels contain similar messages. You guys need to understand and know that in the first century,

1) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN DOCTRINE

2) EVERY CHURCH HAD ITS OWN SCRIPTURES.

Not until the first council did the people in Rome set what we see today as the standard christian theology. All those other early churches have been persecuted and killed for their different views.

Taken From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

Banned From The Bible

Taken from: http://ariainvictus.110mb.com/

Saturday, March 20, 2010

Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible

Taken From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

The sections of this article are:

1- The Chapter of Hebrews 5, and emphasis on verses 5:7-8.
2- Conclusion.

The Chapter of Hebrews 5, and emphasis on verses 5:7-8.

While I was reading my Bible before bed time (sometimes read the Bible and sometimes read the Noble Quran), I stumbled upon Chapter Hebrews 5 in the Bible's New Testament. The following was taken from the New International Version Bible (NIV). Pay attention to Hebrews 5:7:

Hebrews 5

1 Every high priest is selected from among men and is appointed to represent them in matters related to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.
2 He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness.
3 This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as well as for the sins of the people.
4 No one takes this honor upon himself; he must be called by God, just as Aaron was.
5 So Christ also did not take upon himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him,
"You are my Son;
today I have become your Father.[1] "[2]
6 And he says in another place,
"You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek."[3]
7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9 and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
10 and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.

Warning Against Falling Away

11 We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn.
12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!
13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.
14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

Footnotes
5:5 Or have begotten you
5:5 Psalm 2:7
5:6 Psalm 110:4

Few points to notice:

1- In Hebrews 5:7, we clearly see that GOD Almighty had heard Jesus' cries to save him from death.

2- In the book of Psalm 91, we see the same reference with the exception that in Psalm 91:10-12, 15, we read that GOD Almighty will not let the crucifixion to happen, and that the Angels will protect the Messiah from all harm and lift him up:

From http://www.answering-islam.com/psalm_91.htm:

Chapter Psalm 91 clearly and indisputably confirms that Jesus never got crucified!

It is, first of all, important to know that Psalm 91 is referenced more than once in the New Testament for Jesus Christ. So we know for certainty that Psalm 91 is referring to the coming Messiah in the Bible:

Luke 4:10-11
10 For it is written: " 'He will command his angels concerning you (Christ) to guard you carefully;
11 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"

Matthew 4:5-6
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple.
6 "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: " 'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"

Let us now take a look at Psalm 91:

(Please pay specially attention to Psalm 91:11-12, 15)

Psalm 91

1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. ^[a]

2 I will say ^[b] of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust."

3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare and from the deadly pestilence.

4 He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

5 You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day,

6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday.

7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.

8 You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. (According to the Noble Quran and the original writings of the Disciples of Jesus, Jesus was not crucified, and he watched the crucifixion of the doomed person).

9 If you make the Most High your dwelling— even the LORD, who is my refuge-

10 then no harm will befall you, no disaster will come near your tent.

11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways;

12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. (If Jesus died on the cross and got buried, then his feet would've struck the ground and the stones on it from bringing him down, throwing him on the floor and burying him).

13 You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent.

14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

15 He will call upon me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him.

16 With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation."

Footnotes:
a.Psalm 91:1 Hebrew Shaddai
b.Psalm 91:2 Or He says

3- As shown in the displayed article on Psalm 91, the New Testament in Luke 4:10-11 and Matthew 4:5-6 clearly links Psalm 91 to Jesus Christ, or the coming Messiah.

4- Yet, unlike in the rest of the book of Hebrews and in many parts of the New Testament, Psalm 91 doesn't go in harmony at all with the crucifixion.

· Hebrews 9:11-15
11 When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation.
12 He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption.
13 The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean.
14 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!
15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant."

· While we read in Hebrews 9:11-15 about Jesus Christ died for our sins, but Psalm 91:10-12, 15 clearly contradict that. We are told in the latter verses that, yes, GOD Almighty:

· Will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

· He will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).

· Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).

· Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

· No harm or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

· GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

· Christ will be delivered and honored (Psalm 91:15).

· His life will be prolonged (extended) and he will live to even see his offspring (Isaiah 53:10, which by the way contradicts Jesus never got married and had children. In Islam's Noble Quran's 13:38, however, it is quite possible that Jesus Christ had wives and children).

· His life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12).

So how do we explain this contradiction then?

Clearly Psalm 91 is in irreconcilable disagreement with the New Testament. So how is this possible?

Well, the answer to this question is actually quite simple. There is really not a whole a lot to it except quoting what the New Testament's own theologians and historians say about the Canon (the Bible), and about its books and gospels, and in particular about the book of Hebrews. And since all of the books and gospels had been altered by unknown men, unknown number of men, and in unknown places and unknown dates, then it is obviously quite possible and highly probable that false agendas and beliefs had been injected into the "Scriptures", then this makes the book (the book Hebrews in this case):

· Falsely reference what the older manuscripts say and prophesy. In this case, Psalm 91 was completely misunderstood and referenced wrongly in the New Testament.

· Contain alterations and insertions by people from different beliefs, times, places and mindsets, which certainly explains why the Bible, as a whole, contains ample and countless contradictions, corruptions, man's alterations, historical errors, and scientific absurdities in it.

By the way, I've just recently purchased 5 new Bibles from among the top English Bibles in the US. I bought every Bible that had commentaries, history and appendices for each book and gospel it contained, and the total were, again, 5 Bibles. The rest of the Bibles in the bookstore didn't have commentaries and history in them; just verses. I will be updating the article, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), with ample new quotes that will further prove with any doubt that the Bible is indeed a corrupt and altered book. You will be amazed, insha'Allah, at what I've read from the many many different historians and theologians who translated the English Bibles. But anyway, the article as it stands right now, still contains ample proofs from the NIV Bible's commentaries that, again, prove that it had been corrupted and altered by unknown men, unknown number of men, and in unknown places and unknown dates. The other Bibles' commentaries, which I've already read, will further confirm this, insha'Allah.

I will update this section once I update the article, insha'Allah.

Please visit: Isaiah 53 clearly confirms Islam's Divine Claim about Jesus never got crucified.

conclusion:
The Bible is in clear contradiction with itself regarding Jesus Christ's alleged crucifixion and in everything else that it essentially talks about. It can not be trusted nor taken very seriously to base a serious faith on. At best, one would only be speculating when he tries to use the Bible to prove anything. Islam is the only Religion, which is by the way also the Only True and uncorrupt Divine Religion remaining today, that confirms the Truth in the Bible and removes the falsehood from it.

I pray to Allah Almighty that this article will shed some light upon the reader and clearly prove to him/her that Islam is the True Way to GOD Almighty, and it is indeed a True and Divine Religion from GOD Almighty. Ameen.

Taken From: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm